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The Covent Garden HR Buddies is an initiative facilitated by Clarkslegal to offer the London HR community the opportunity to meet with like-minded peers, attend relevant seminars and workshops and boost your knowhow of the issues specific to this sector.
 
It’s free and open to anyone interested in HR. It sets its own agenda, so it can be purely social or facilitate presentations to help prevent HR problems for companies in the London area. So if you want to network face to face contact
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If, alternatively, you wish to network online with other HR professionals, then using the discussion forum below, is your ideal opportunity to do so.

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creynolds
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Collective redundancy consultation
Posted: 22 Oct 07 5:44 PM
This week buddy was asked:  My business has to make quite a few redundancies in various departments, however each department is actually a different limited company for tax reasons. Does this affect my collective consultation obligations?
creynolds
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Re: Collective redundancy consultation
Posted: 29 Oct 07 9:28 AM

Buddy says:  The obligation to collectively consult about redundancy only arises where 20 or more employees you are proposing to make redundant are all from the same establishment and are employed by the same employer. As such, even if the employees are situated in the same office/site, for the purposes of the collective consultation obligations, employee numbers need only be considered in respect of each limited company. So for example, if your business is made up of four companies situated in the same building and each company is proposing to dismiss 10 employees, even though this amounts to 40 employees in total, the duty to consult collectively will not arise.

 

Employer information:  If several associated employers all operate from one set of premises, even if the combined operation can be regarded as one establishment, each employer's batch of redundancies must be considered separately. Several sister companies can each declare 18 redundancies without giving rise to any duty to consult under collective consultation legislation. Although the group might have declared more than 20 redundancies at the same establishment, no single employer has declared 20 or more redundancies at that establishment and accordingly, the collective consultation obligation does not kick in.

 

If follows that when establishing whether an employer is obliged to consult for a minimum of 30 or 90 days, the number of employees must be calculated separately in relation to each company.  Employers should note that when counting the number of employees that an employer is proposing to make redundant voluntary redundancies must be included.

 

Where the duty to collectively consult does arise, employers are still required to consult with employees individually.  Hence, even if the duty to collectively consult does not apply to each company, you should still ensure that you consult with employees individually. This is advisable as if an employee who is made redundant subsequently brings a claim for unfair dismissal, a failure to consult will normally render the dismissal unfair.

 

Where the duty to collectively consult arises, the employer must consult all appropriate representatives of the employees who may be made redundant. (For further information on identifying the appropriate representative, see our buddy factsheet “TUPE and Redundancy Collective Consultation”).

 

If an employer fails to comply with the collective consultation procedures, affected employees may bring a complaint before an employment tribunal within three months of the last of the dismissals. If the tribunal finds the complaint well-founded, it will make a declaration to that effect and may make a protective award.  If an employer fails to consult on an individual basis, an affected employee may bring a complaint of unfair dismissal.
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